Thoughts on the Apology from PLS

Sorry it took me so long to post this. First, I wanted to make sure that I had permission to pass this info along to everyone. Then, the weekend happened and I got involved in furious cleaning and other projects.

I spoke with Patte, the former secretary for ProLife Search, on Thursday night. She gave me her permission to post parts of an email that she sent me detailing some of the inconsistencies in the apology email sent out by Joe Hanley. These were things that she told me before Joe's email came out and I asked her to clarify after I saw what was written in the email.

Here is the content of the email that Patte sent to me:

Yes, I do see problems with the email.

-I don't know what they are talking about with "web developers". No passwords were changed. I accessed the PLS website daily up to and including the day it went suddently offline forever.

-The only other person that I am aware of that had access to the website was their tech guy who worked for them in other capacities. He hadn't been involved with the PLS website for months. There was no need. He was not aware of the site being down until I pointed it out to him by phone. He logged into the account and said "They just didn't pay their bill and so it was canceled." According to him, all they need do even now, is to pay $250, they'll be given a new set of numbers and it would be up and running with no hitch whatsoever.

-Our userbase is not in the PLS website. It is in the aWeber program that sends out the mass emails.

-Therefore...how can they account for being able to SPAM you all these last months?

-Therefore....how is it that now they are able to send this email out that they did just yesterday if the website is gone and the "web developers" blocked them from the website?

-Why couldn't they access the contact information for the book purchasers? That all went through Paypal and Authorize.net. Every single purchaser is in there (except those who paid by check of course). There is no purchaser information in that website.

-To my knowledge, no charity received any money from the book sales in '07. They did however earn $6000 from book sales and that entire amount was given out at Christmas. Joe and Jack were so happy to do that.

-Though the printing of the books may have been taking place overseas, I was told that the Chinese printer himself is in southern California. Why can't he be sued?

I'm concerned about the ones who didn't get this email from them because they got sick of the SPAM and unsubscribed.

I think that Patte covers my concerns pretty well in her email.

The only thing that I can think to add is this post from the administrator of the Cure, Beach of Stone Website. (thanks to filiamariae for posting this new info in my combox)

For those of you who are wanting an explaination in regards to the domain prolifesearch.com... please read:

I do apologize you are being re-directed to this website. However, this is NOT my fault. I have NOT bought the domain, as lots of you have inquired of me. The people to blame for this problem is the host. My domain and prolifesearch.com are hosted by the same company, liquidweb. When I switched hosts recently, they put my site on the SAME IP address as prolifesearch.com. THAT is why you're being redirected to my site. I have since spoken to techs to try to fix this issue, and it should be rectified within 24-48 hours. Sorry for your inconvenience.

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Graphics Web Designer and Editor of Beachofstone.com
lane@beachofstone.com

This was posted on their forum on August 29. Any links to Prolife Search still take you to their site, so the host hasn't changed the numbers yet. I'll keep watching it to see if anything changes, but liquidweb may not do anything, since, according to the former PLS web guy, the account is past due.

I still plan to contact Dr. Rice again and pass on the information that Patte sent to me, that I have posted here. I still have not received my refund.

Thanks to all of you out there trying to investigate this. If you find anything that I don't have email me and I'll post it here so we have everything in one place.

One final note: The address that is listed for ProLife Search is a private residence, but it does not belong to Jack or Joe. It belongs to a relative of one of the men, so if you live in the Chicago area, don't go charging out to the house. Feel free to send letters though, as Joe himself listed the address in his email as a way to contact him.